R/Genz reacts to the proposed abolishment of the Department of Education

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1ifixlq/what_do_you_guys_think_of_this/

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well. you have public schools that are preaching about how white people are bad and pushing LGBT narratives in a god damn school + you have public education admins who are being paid absurd amounts to do nothing. i think pushing education back to a private sector / state funding thing would be a good idea tbh

This is either limited thinking, not caring about poor people, or a Russian bot

poor people can still attend state funded schools? its literally the same concept but expenses will be more heavily scrutinized.

Look at what a lack of government regulation has done to housing. How many free/cheap private schools have you heard of? Are they teaching white people are bad or are they teaching history? Do you work in schools? Are you in school? Do you have any idea of what’s actually going on or is this just vibes/feelings?

"Look at what a lack of government regulation has done to housing." The supply of houses is kept artificially low via government regulation, that's why they're so expensive.

The Department of Education wasn't formed until 1979 and has failed on improving key metrics ever since. It's bloated, ineffective, and no administration has been able to reform it into something useful.

Goes back to 1867 actually: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education

Did you miss the first sentence? The United States Department of Education is a cabinet-level department of the United States government. It began operating on May 4, 1980, having been created after the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was split into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services by the Department of Education Organization Act, which President Jimmy Carter signed into law on October 17, 1979 Education existed before it was formed, it will exist after it is eliminated, IF it is eliminated. It just goes back to being part of HHS.

That's when it became a cabinet level department, learn how to read

The DOE is shit at is job and horribly corrupt but this probably won't improve education much cause most state education departments suck too. Idk if there really is a good realistic solution because public schools will never allow school vouchers without massive restrictions otherwise they would never be able to compete.

Ah yes the vouchers are clearly the solution, not like they’re part of the problem why our public education system is failing and only benefit the wealthy while leaving the poor to drown behind them. I too wish to return to the education system employed by feudal societies

how dare you let pepple chose what school they want to go to

how dare you let pepple chose what school they want to go to

The DOE budget in 2023 was $274 BILLION. Are we getting our money's worth when high school graduates still can't read? Eliminating the DOE doesn't mean these programs go away. It means they will be administered by a different agency, such as HHS, and reviewed for waste, fraud, abuse, and effectiveness. We have way too many agencies in the entitlements business.

Where is this level of oversight for the military?

The military kinda pays for itself by protecting trade routes and providing protection to other countries in exchange for them using the US dollar in international markets. The DOE only benefits disabled people, which is a very small percentage of their huge budget.

Is this a joke?

Not even hitting 2% of the national budget. Government is for the people by the people. It is meant to SERVE.

So even if you could save $50 billion, you wouldn't do it? That's crazy. Our federal budget has been out of control for decades. The deficits are huge and the debt has exploded. Somebody has to do something about it.

Why is the focus entirely on spending? You realize there’s an entire other half of the puzzle, right? It’s called federal income? We could put a dent in the debt by raising taxes on the wealthy, not lowering it like Trump plans to do. But for some reason that option gets completely ignored when people talk about the budget being “out of control.”

You say that because you assume it will not be YOU paying the bill. If they doubles your sales ta, income tax, social security tax, car registration fees, etc., rather than spending the money they have more effectively you would be pretty pissed off

For years if not decades, people have wanted a reform to the education system, now that someone is doing something drastic, it's a problem apparently?

Reform? Where is the reform?

Education will be controlled on a state level, overall making it more agile and responsive to change.

Or, as we’ve seen on many, many other occasions, it’ll be gutted and put to the barebones level. I don’t see Kentucky or Alabama pouring state funds into schools anytime… ever. And, it ensures education will have no guardrails or standards. A state government could put Jesus Christ raising America from the lost city of Atlantis in the History textbooks and nobody could intervene.

Education levels plummeted under the DOE...

If you voted for Kamala, well done. Your conscious is clear. If you didn’t vote, you’re complicit. If you voted for Trump, this is on you.

I voted for Trump. Everyone is freaking out because he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. The sky is not going to fall. America will be ok. So glad Biden is gone.

As an Australian looking in and following it all extremely closely, I’m sorry but you fucked up. There hasn’t been a single policy or EO that could possibly be seen as a positive. Not a single one. Considering you’re Gen Z it gets even uglier for you. Good luck. He has absolutely destroyed your country more than any sitting president has in the last 2 decades in mere weeks. Irreparable damage.

Biden has irreparably destroyed our country. You are entitled to your opinion, but most Americans voted differently. We’ve had Trump before and life was better. That’s our democracy here

But Kamala was just as bad as Trump right guys

i didn’t particularly care for her laugh though 😕

People will always choose hating women and vote for Fascism

Can you tell me what about the current Trump presidency or his previous term classifies him as a fascist?

ICE agents attempting to take suspected migrants from schools and bus stops for simply not carrying ID is pretty up there is it not? Targetting Haitians during the campaign was a classic facist move too if you’d like. Oh and the migrant detention centre on Guantanamo bay doesn’t need explaining right? This is all presuming you wanted actual examples rather than facetiously defending your favourable view of a noted moron?

lol that’s not fascism, fascism is corporations in charge of the government. Basically lobbying

Musk owns the government now

Actually she was worse because it’s her fault we’re in this mess. Maybe next time the dems will run someone competent. Her and Joe are gonna rot in hell for letting their ego get in the way during the most important election of our times.

Imagine saying this as a teacher laid off because of budget cuts, on a post about deleting the department of education What an absolute fucking idiot you are. I hope you never get another job lmao.

It sucks. He said he was going to do it. Fuck you if you voted for him.

Nah. Fuck those who react on emotion and don’t notice this was introduced when Biden was in office.

Are you implying that people should've realized sooner, or that this is somehow Biden's fault because this bill was introduced while he was president?

Well Trump wasn’t president in 2023. So, fuck Biden? That was the “him” you so eloquently referred to, right?

So it's bidens fault the bill was introduced by a Republican and died on the floor and is now re introduced with trump in charge? Maybe we should just blame dei since we like to blame shit that doesn't make sense